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Dr. Steven Zucker: [0:03] We’re on the first floor of Orsanmichele, which is this extraordinarily complicated and important building. It’s a granary, and it’s odd to think of a granary right in the middle of town.
Dr. Beth Harris: [0:14] Well, we don’t often think about granaries. Granaries were a place to store grain.
Dr. Zucker: [0:20] But this was incredibly important, because there were years when a town might be under a siege and you couldn’t get to the fields, or there might be bad harvests.
Dr. Harris: [0:27] Right, so right here on the first floor of Orsanmichele there was a grain market, and it was open.
Dr. Zucker: [0:34] And then upstairs, there were the storage areas, and those were huge spaces.
Dr. Harris: [0:38] And so this was, at one point, a church, and then became a granary, and there was an image of the Madonna that was located here that was believed to have miraculous powers, and at some point it burned. Then another image of the Virgin was created that also had miraculous powers.
Dr. Zucker: [0:55] It was imbued with the same powers. I think we’re up to the third version. This is by Bernardo Daddi, but it’s surrounded by this extraordinary altar, which was by Orcagna, who we generally think of as a painter.
Dr. Harris: [1:07] It’s an amazing tabernacle housing this miraculous image of the Virgin. So, we have to imagine that this space was once open.
Dr. Zucker: [1:16] The walls that are there now were not there originally. This was really a part of the city. The city, in a sense, flowed through it.
[1:22] I think it’s important to think about this place as an intersection of the spiritual — it was a church — and of the everyday business of the city, that is, it was a granary. Even its location is midway between the great cathedral, the Duomo, and the town hall, the Signoria.
Dr. Harris: [1:39] It’s here that the first Renaissance sculptures were created for the niches on the outside of this building. It’s in this context that the first humanist Renaissance sculptures are born.
Dr. Zucker: [1:52] Let’s go upstairs because sculptures that used to be in the niches are now all protected upstairs in the area that used to hold the grain.
Dr. Harris: [1:59] We just climbed up a long flight of stairs, and we entered a large, open space filled with the sculptures, the monumental figures that stood on the outside of Orsanmichele in the niches.
Dr. Zucker: [2:14] Now, if you go outside, you see casts of the originals, which are here because it’s safer from the elements.
Dr. Harris: [2:20] To protect them. In the very early 15th century, the guilds of Florence each were responsible for completing a figure for a niche on the outside of Orsanmichele. The guilds each commissioned a sculptor of their choice.
[2:36] We’re sitting in front of Donatello’s “Saint Mark,” which was commissioned by the linen drapers’ guild. Donatello gives us this classical figure.
Dr. Zucker: [2:47] So, what is classical about it? I mean, the first thing that I see is, of course, this incredible contrapposto that comes through even under that heavy cloth. Look at the way, for instance, that his right engaged leg, the drape falls down almost as if that’s the fluting of a column.
Dr. Harris: [3:02] We can see his left knee pressing through the drapery. Donatello’s really reviving contrapposto, which hasn’t been seen in Western art in a thousand years.
Dr. Zucker: [3:13] It’s so beautifully handled. You have the sense of the absolute stability of this figure, and yet the sense of his movement.
Dr. Harris: [3:21] The thing that’s most impressive is the psychological intensity of this figure, which is really overwhelming. There’s a sense almost as though, along with the contrapposto, he’s going to move, and he’s going to speak.
[3:35] There’s a real sense of the dignity of Mark here, and I think by extension, that sense that one has in the Florentine Renaissance of the dignity of man, of human beings.
Dr. Zucker: [3:45] There’s a kind of intensity. There’s a kind of focus. There’s a kind of deep human sense of understanding in that face, in the little bit of the furrow of the brow that you can see, in the way that the head is cocked slightly, and it’s off-center in terms of the shoulders, turning back around. There’s an interior awareness, a kind of interior intelligence that comes through so starkly.
Dr. Harris: [4:11] At the same time, without a halo.
Dr. Zucker: [4:15] Yes.
Dr. Harris: [4:15] I have no doubt that this is someone who sees something that ordinary human beings don’t see. When you look at his eyes, he is, in a way, seeing past us.
Dr. Zucker: [4:26] Isn’t that the core of the story of the Florentine experience in the 15th century? You have this intensely devout culture, and yet at the same time, you have a culture that is beginning to really celebrate human experience, the individual, and the idea of the rational.
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